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The "AIDS" Testimony

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The Smoking Gun in the AIDS conspiracy theory, or just hot air?  You decide

Editor's Note:

The transcript that follows is taken from the June 9, 1969 Senate testimony of Dr. Donald MacArthur, a high-level Defense Department biological research administrator. For those who hold the theory that AIDS is the result of a U.S. biological weapons program--discussed in chapter 40 of 60 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time--this testimony is a smoking gun, or smoking petri dish as the case may be. We present it without further comment. Judge for yourself.



United States Senate Library



Ninety-First Congress

First Session

Subcommittee on Department of Defense

George H. Mahon, Texas, Chairman

Robert L.F. Sikes, Florida, Glenard P. Lipscomb, California

Jamie D. Whitten, Mississippi William E. Minshall, Ohio

George W. Andrews, Alabama, John J. Rhodes, Arizona

Daniel J. Flood, Pennsylvania Glenn R. Davis, Wisconsin

John M. Slack, West Virginia, Joseph P. Addabbo, New York

Frank E. Evans, Colorado

Temporarily assigned H.B. 15090



Department of the Army

Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency

Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering


Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations








There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.

MR. SIKES. Are we doing any work in that field?

DR. MACARTHUR. We are not.

MR. SIKES. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?

DR. MACARTHUR. Certainly not lack of interest.

MR. SIKES. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be. The time and the cost involved?

DR. MACARTHUR. We will be very happy to. The information follows:

The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following observations:

1. All biological agents up the the present time are representitives of naturally occurring disease, and are thus known by scientists throughout the world. They are easily available to qualified scientists for research, either for offensive or defensive purposes.

2. Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.

3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.

4. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientisis in the field., almost all are in university laboratories, and they are generally adequately supported from sources other than DOD. However, it was considered possible to initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of sciences - National Research Council (NAS-NRC, and tentative plans were made to initiate the program. However decreasing funds in CB, growing criticism of the CB program., and our reluctance to involve the NAS NRC in such a controversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years.

It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaked lest it lead to yet another method of massive killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientific knowledge that such a weapon is possible, and an understanding of the ways it could be done. there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures. Should an enemy develop it there is little doubt that this is an important area of potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequate research program.

Next week I will view documents of the origin of AIDS  that are awaiting me at the National Security Archives in Washington, D.C. Congresswoman Davis, I would like to meet with you to begin the process of forwarding a 'private relief bill for Boyd Graves' to allow for expenses associated with the orderly transfer of my files and records to the U.S. Archives for initial public display and subsequent permanent preservation.

At all times relative to the pursuit of the true origin of HIV/AIDS, I never once waived in my absolute resolve to strengthen the national security of my country.14 months ago I took the U.S. patented cure for AIDS, patent #5676977 (Tetrasil). It is necessary to begin immediate double blind studies of the efficacy of this cure (Ag4O4).

It is shocking that Dr. Cargill, the U.S. Medical Officer for AIDS Research was not interested in the U.S. patented cure for AIDS. This is also true for members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Until they are all talking about the U.S. Special (AIDS) Virus program (1948 - 1978), they are all fooling you.

Shortly after we imported the nazi scientists, following World War II, curtailing the Black population became the single focus of the United States. How did AIDS evolve from a 1932 strain of nazi visna, strain, ks-1514?

Trust me, nary a single one of them will even offer an explanation....They don't have, to them, I am simply a nigger with AIDS....Boyd Ed Graves, J.D. 619-293-0273

Boyd E. Graves, J.D.
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